His family holidays still include his ex, not me
not_on_the_family_booking · Posted 20 Sep 2026, 07:08
I’m 45 and I’ve been with him for eleven months. He is 48, divorced, and has a thirteen-year-old daughter. Before we met, he and his ex-wife had kept doing one family holiday a year with their daughter. Separate rooms, no pretending they were still together, just the three of them going somewhere she already loved. He told me about it early on and I said I thought it was good that they could co-parent without making everything hostile. I meant that. What I did not understand was how it would feel once I was his partner. They went to Cornwall in April. We had only been seeing each other for six months, so I did not expect an invitation. He messaged every day and brought me back a ridiculous lighthouse mug. It was fine, or close enough. Last week he told me they had booked Greece for next summer. He said it while we were cooking, as casually as if he was mentioning a dentist appointment. His daughter had chosen the hotel. His ex had found flights. They had already paid the deposits. I asked whether it had occurred to him to talk to me before booking. He said he had not realised it was something I needed a say in because it was a parenting arrangement that existed before me. I do not think he is secretly still in love with his ex. They argue about school shoes and handover times like two people who are very definitely divorced. His daughter also should not have to lose something safe just because her dad has a boyfriend. But I felt outside his life in a way I had not felt before. We have talked about taking a holiday together, but nothing is booked. I have met his daughter four times. She is polite and a little wary, which seems completely reasonable. I am not asking to be inserted into their family photographs after eleven months. I am asking whether there is ever going to be room for me in the plans that matter. When I said that, he heard an ultimatum about the Greece trip. I heard him defending a permanent structure in which his ex remains part of the family unit and I get the weekends around it. We stopped the conversation because his daughter was arriving. Since then we have both been painfully normal. I keep switching between feeling childish and feeling furious. He has not broken an agreement because we never made one about this. I also do not want to become the person who proves he can only have a peaceful divorce until a new partner objects. We are talking again on Wednesday. I am not going to ask him to cancel Greece. I am going to ask what he imagines family life looking like if we are still together in two or five years. Does every major holiday stay reserved for the original three? Could I ever come too? Would we build traditions of our own, or would those always be fitted around the old ones? I can respect the family he already has. I need to know whether being with him means I can only ever visit its edges.
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You are asking whether there will be room for you, not whether his daughter must lose a family tradition. That distinction is worth keeping very clear when you talk on Wednesday.
I do not think eleven months gives you a veto over the Greece trip, but being told after the deposits were paid explains why you felt outside the plan. The useful question is how decisions like this will work as the relationship becomes more serious.
The Wednesday conversation sounds important because you are not asking to erase his existing family. You are asking whether the relationship will eventually have traditions and plans of its own.
Exactly. The Greece trip may stay as planned, but they still need to discuss whether future holidays will always preserve the original three-person structure.
Before Wednesday, it may help to decide what a serious long-term relationship would look like beyond this Greece trip. That gives you something concrete to discuss without turning one existing holiday into a verdict on the whole future.
The issue is not whether you rank above his daughter or his ex. It is whether he can protect that co-parenting tradition while also making plans and traditions that include you.
Wanting future inclusion is reasonable, but the Greece trip itself is not the whole issue. Wednesday needs to be about whether they can build shared traditions alongside the daughter’s existing one.
im sorry, that sounds rubbish. hope wednesday gives you the answers you need.
I would not assume the annual holiday means he will always put his ex first. He may genuinely see it as parenting, but booking next summer without a conversation shows that you need a much clearer picture of how a future partner fits.
The annual holiday may be a good co-parenting arrangement, but booking Greece before discussing the future left his partner outside a plan that affects them both. Wednesday’s conversation needs to be about what family life could include, not only whether this particular trip is cancelled.
Writing down what he needs before Wednesday may stop the conversation collapsing into an argument about Greece. The real question is whether there will be room for shared traditions in two or five years.
He is not asking for veto power over parenting time or for the Greece trip to be cancelled. He is asking what place a long-term partner could eventually have in a family structure that currently excludes him.
Eleven months does not entitle him to replace the daughter’s traditions. It is still reasonable to ask whether every major holiday will remain reserved for the original three if the relationship becomes long-term.
The original holiday does not have to end automatically because he has a new partner. The unanswered question is whether the old family structure can make room for a future one rather than treating every change as disloyalty.
He is asking to be considered in long-term plans, not declared the top priority over a thirteen-year-old. That distinction matters if the conversation is to stay fair to everyone.
this actually made me cry reading it. i was in a near identical spot for two years and it destroyed my self esteem. please dont wait until you are five years deep into being a secret side project before walking away.
honestly you sound needy. its his kid and his ex. you have been dating less than a year and you are already trying to overhaul his entire life. maybe just try being the girlfriend first and stop acting like his accountant.